Adam’s experience with Ukrainian dating agencies is this…

I believe (because it is my experience) that the ‘Agency’ is the #1 place and chance for men to be scammed. Whilst I have only been to Ukraine 5 times, it must be understood that I have spent over three (3) months fulltime sitting around in Ukraine (90% of the time by myself), having taken the chance on love and visited again because I thought I had met someone unique and substantial but only to have the online relationship which lasted anywhere from 4 months (70 letters exchanged) up to 10 months (approximately 160 letters).

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I have seen behavior that at first I put up with because I did not want to cause any problems and ruin my chance of losing the girl/woman who I had come all that way to meet. But my last visit to Zaporozhe in late 2012, the relationship was over before we even met. I have travelled all that way, spent all that time money and effort and when I got there I was supposed to have a evening date with this young single mum. We have corresponded for over four (4) months and I had share everything with her, bought her gifts and told her about my previous ten (10) year history and the troubles I had experience.

She said she understands and promised me with all her heart that she was not like that and would never do that to me. Yet one (1) before I was supposed to meet her in the foyer of the Intourist Hotel I got a phone call to my room from the agency telling me that Olga could not spend too much time me on our first date since she was busy. I was told that maybe only half an hour (30 minutes).

I was very upset at this and tried to cancel the date, telling them that I knew this game very well and I knew where it would end, yet the woman from the agency was very determine for the date to go ahead and telephone me back ten (10) minutes later and said everything was okay and Olga could now spend more time with me. I tried to cancel it but she was very persuasive and persistent. I went on the date and behaved like a gentleman that I am but I already knew it was over.

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The date was okay and pleasant enough but Olga was very distant and cold (socially correct yet emotionally guarded). The following day (Sunday) the agency had organized for Olga and me (with our interpreter) to go to the famous Khortysia island on the Dnieper River. Once gain all very pleasant and expensive (considering the real cost of living in Ukraine) the day finished with a taxi ride back into the city and $380 shopping spree.

As you can image I was done after that. And I would tell you similar stories of games and manipulation with every trip I have ever made to Ukraine. So are all Ukrainian dating agencies dishonest? Well probably not, but I have a perfect record for 5 out of 5 who were. Are you sure you want take that chance?

With respect and care…

Adam

Krystyna

Krystyna

Krystyna is a Ukrainian woman who blogs about dating Ukrainian & Russian women and how to deal with intercultural differences in a Ukrainian/Russian-Western relationship.

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3 Responses

  1. Adam Black says:

    More stories about all the BS. On HRB (HotRussianBrides) there is a young 20 yo girl there who has been trying to get my attention for months. She has sent me many emails and chat requests (dozens).
    Yet I have joined VK.com (Russia’s biggest social networking site) and I found her there and sent a ‘Friendship Request’… WITH NO REPLY and NO RESPONSE. So I had a quick chat to her on HRB and asked her if she smokes or has ever smoked. She promised me that she does not and has never smoked. Yet on her VK profile there she is with a cigarette in her hand. IF you have been to Ukraine you will see in society that most of the girls/woman smoke. Yet on all these websites most of them say ‘NO’ to smoking. So many lies here gents. STAY AWAY from this nightmare. Trust me. I have 11 years and 5 failed trips to Ukraine as experience. It is all a scam. If there is any truth or genuine behaviour here than you would be very, very lucky indeed to get it. Most of it is a scam. Do you really want to waste 1000’s of dollars of your money to test this? I have entered other post on this website. Please read them. If you still chose to go down this road, well that is your decision, but you have been warned. STAY AWAY. Take Care and Be Aware

  2. Adam Black says:

    (AB NOTE: The following email conversations where the result of me becoming aware that (once again) I was being scammed. I hope they make some sense since three (3) months correspondence and chats the precluded this event have not been included. If you want; email me and I will send you a full report of the correspondence and some of the later chats (I only started saving them later in the relationship). If you want to abuse me, then I cannot stop you, but I am immune to abuse since I have heard it all before. So do what you want. I am here only to protect the innocent and naïve. Take Care and Be Aware!!!).
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black [mailto:work2live@hotmail.com.au]
    Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:26 AM
    To: Customer Service; Info; Email
    Subject: Very annoyed and upset
    Hello,
    Although I already know the answer… “it is another scam!!!”, I would like to hear your excuse for what I discovered yesterday when your ADMIN sent me a fake photo of my gift for ID 582322 that has supposed to have been delivered.
    It is fake when you consider that the stupid scammers had already foolishly sent me a ‘Cropped’ version of the exact same photo (but of her face only) 3 months ago on the 19th of September 2013 (see attached image).
    So I want to know what you are going to do about it?
    Regards
    Adam Black
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    From: Ashley (Ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 2:32:52 PM
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Thank you for your report,
    We have forwarded this information to the appropriate department for further investigation. Depending on our findings, we will take the appropriate steps and when warranted, warn, suspend or deactivate as the situation requires. Additionally, while we have requested that the gift be delivered at this time and photo confirmation be uploaded to the site, should you prefer us to cancel the gift delivery and issue a refund for the amount of the gift purchase we would be happy to do so per your request. Please let us know which option you prefer so that we may assist you in a timely manner.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 4:48:36 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Hello Ashley,
    How can you cancel the order? It has already been delivered according to the last letter I got from Annchik ID: 582322.
    (Refer Attached image)
    It is not so much ‘ABOUT THE GIFT’… (it was only $67) it is more about… ‘IS THE GIRL I HAVE BE CORRESPONDING WITH FOR OVER 3 MONTHS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS (IS SHE THE GIRL IN THE PHOTOS?)’.
    This is the issue I have.
    Or is she (Annchik) someone hiding behind fake photos and is being paid to chat and correspond with me?
    That is my question… I think it is too late with the Gift… (it is gone already).
    I am more concerned about the $1000′s and time of I have wasted.
    I am concern that I am being scammed (it has happened before).
    Kind Regards
    Adam Black
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley (Ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 6:04:35 PM
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Thank you for your reply,
    While we have requested that the gift be redelivered and photo confirmation uploaded to the site, as we have yet to receive a response from the lady’s local agency we have requested a refund for the gift purchase for $67.50. Generally, a bank will process a refund in 3 to 5 business days, but you will need to verify when the funds will be available.
    In regards to the ladies on our site, as previously discussed, ladies are viewable by video stream during chat and all have undergone an intensive interview, identity verification and video validation process before they are allowed to sign up with our site. Our Terms of Use clearly outline ethical guidelines for our male and female clients, as well as the agencies we work with. All members agree to these terms in order to use the site. We investigate all instances of possible unethical behavior. In accordance with our Terms of Use, our agreements with the female members affirm that they are indeed seeking serious relationships, that they acknowledge that they are not being paid, and that they will not ask for money and gifts. The Terms of Use strictly prohibit members and users on our sites from being paid and we neither participate in, nor promote, or condone any such conduct. We require signed written and recorded video attestations from all foreign/non-American lady participants to emphasize and establish that we do not allow such conduct on our sites. Furthermore, we also prohibit these activities via written signed/executed agreements with all its overseas independent agencies/affiliates so that they too are forbidden from participating in any such conduct. For more information on this process, please visit the blog at
    http://russianwomenblog.hotrussianbrides.com/post/Why-Should-I-Choose-HotRussianBrides-e28093-Anti-Scam-and-Validation-Procedures.aspx and http://russianwomenblog.hotrussianbrides.com/post/Hot-Russian-Brides-Launches-Their-Unique-Video-Validation-Procedure.aspx.
    As per our Terms of Use:
    NOTICE TO MEMBERS. HotRussianBrides.com secures and electronically stores the passports and any other documentation provided by FNCs, in order to validate the information contained within their profiles. However, HotRussianBrides.com has no way of ascertaining the authenticity of any documentation, or how current the information or images provided by an FNC are. Further, HotRussianBrides.com does not conduct independent individual or criminal background checks on FNCs. Therefore, IPGI makes no warranty either express or implied that the information contained within an FNC’s profile is truthful and accurate or that an FNC is available or eligible for marriage. IPGI expressly forbids FNCs who have been convicted of a crime or are under the age of 18 from maintaining profiles and participating in the Services on the Website. Therefore, in addition to IPGI’s policy of reserving the right to deactivate any FNC’s profile and access to the Website with or without cause, IPGI will not allow FNCs of whom it has knowledge have been convicted of a crime or are under the age of 18 to participate in Website Services. However, IPGI assumes no liability for any deactivation of an FNC’s profile or account due to information from any source that may incorrectly identify an FNC as ineligible to participate in Website Services whether the incorrect identification is due to electronic or human error. Additionally, IPGI assumes no liability as a result of FNCs who supply false information or supply false or misleading documentation to support the information supplied within their profile. IPGI expressly warns Members that undesirable individuals who supply false information and supply false or misleading documentation may gain access to Website Services. As a result, IPGI, its affiliates, and their employees, officers, directors, representatives, and assigns will not be liable for any direct, indirect, exemplary, special, punitive, incidental or consequential damages arising out of a Member’s participation on HotRussianBrides.com or any IPGI affiliated website, from events whose consequences may involve but are not limited to, financial loss, physical damages, bodily injury, and emotional distress.
    We have included multiple screen shots from the lady’s video validation as discussed above for your reference. Additionally, we have asked our agency liaison to reach out to the lady’s local agency and request a date in which the lady will be available on Live Video Stream so that you may validate the lady directly.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 8:01:28 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Thanks very much for all you good work but really Ashley; I think it is too late (the damage is done).
    Yes I can see that your companies’ video validation is the same girl that I have been corresponding with for the past three (3) months (such a beautiful girl), but the question still begs… WHY… WHY… WHY?
    Why all the games of presenting me with a photo that was not the real photo of the real day she got my flowers?
    It is very deceitful and rather disrespectful to treat me like I am some idiot who cannot see bullshit when I see it.
    All these games… it is such a pity because I thought Annet was finally the one I had been searching for for so long.
    It is too late, I have written to Annet and made my accusations and it is too late now.
    I have 11 years of fulltime corresponding, 5 failed trips to Ukraine, over $100,000 spent (wasted) over 1 million words of correspondence and chatting written. Having read, and seriously contemplating the profiles of over 100,000 women.
    Yes I am a romantic fool, so I have beaten you to that judgment!
    I will also tell you that I am 51 year old Australian single father of 13 years raising my ‘A’ Grade super-intelligent daughter all on my own, whilst holding down a career as a Drafting Office Manager for Engineering companies until earlier in 2013 when the GFC finally caught-up with us. So I am (hopefully) no idiot… although I may be a fool.
    Thank you but I think you should delete my account now. I’m done.
    Kind Regards
    Adam
    P.S. can you please pass on my sincerest apologizes to Annet. If she is real then I have made a huge mistake but she should not have to pay for it. It is my problem not hers. It will sound better coming from you.
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley@russianlovematch.com
    To: work2live@hotmail.com.au
    Subject: Your Inquiry
    Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:33:20 +0000
    Thank you for your report,
    We have forwarded this information to the appropriate department for further investigation. Depending on our findings, we will take the appropriate steps and when warranted, warn, suspend or deactivate as the situation requires. Additionally, while we have requested that the gift be delivered at this time and photo confirmation be uploaded to the site, should you prefer us to cancel the gift delivery and issue a refund for the amount of the gift purchase we would be happy to do so per your request. Please let us know which option you prefer so that we may assist you in a timely manner.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black [mailto:work2live@hotmail.com.au]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:49 AM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Subject: RE: Your Inquiry
    Hello Ashley,
    How can you cancel the order? It has already been delivered according to the last letter I got from Annchik ID: 582322.
    (Refer Attached image)
    It is not so much ‘ABOUT THE GIFT’… (it was only $67) it is more about… ‘IS THE GIRL I HAVE BE CORRESPONDING WITH FOR OVER 3 MONTHS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS (IS SHE THE GIRL IN THE PHOTOS?)’. This is the issue I have.
    Or is she (Annchik) someone hiding behind fake photos and is being paid to chat and correspond with me?
    That is my question… I think it is too late with the Gift… (it is gone already).
    I am more concerned about the $1000′s and time of I have wasted.
    I am concern that I am being scammed (it has happened before).
    Kind Regards
    Adam Black
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley@russianlovematch.com
    Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:05:11 +0000
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Subject: RE: Your Inquiry
    Thank you for your reply,
    While we have requested that the gift be redelivered and photo confirmation uploaded to the site, as we have yet to receive a response from the lady’s local agency we have requested a refund for the gift purchase for $67.50. Generally, a bank will process a refund in 3 to 5 business days, but you will need to verify when the funds will be available.
    In regards to the ladies on our site, as previously discussed, ladies are viewable by video stream during chat and all have undergone an intensive interview, identity verification and video validation process before they are allowed to sign up with our site. Our Terms of Use clearly outline ethical guidelines for our male and female clients, as well as the agencies we work with. All members agree to these terms in order to use the site. We investigate all instances of possible unethical behavior. In accordance with our Terms of Use, our agreements with the female members affirm that they are indeed seeking serious relationships, that they acknowledge that they are not being paid, and that they will not ask for money and gifts. The Terms of Use strictly prohibit members and users on our sites from being paid and we neither participate in, nor promote, or condone any such conduct. We require signed written and recorded video attestations from all foreign/non-American lady participants to emphasize and establish that we do not allow such conduct on our sites. Furthermore, we also prohibit these activities via written signed/executed agreements with all its overseas independent agencies/affiliates so that they too are forbidden from participating in any such conduct. For more information on this process, please visit the blog at
    http://russianwomenblog.hotrussianbrides.com/post/Why-Should-I-Choose-HotRussianBrides-e28093-Anti-Scam-and-Validation-Procedures.aspx and http://russianwomenblog.hotrussianbrides.com/post/Hot-Russian-Brides-Launches-Their-Unique-Video-Validation-Procedure.aspx.
    As per our Terms of Use:
    NOTICE TO MEMBERS. HotRussianBrides.com secures and electronically stores the passports and any other documentation provided by FNCs, in order to validate the information contained within their profiles. However, HotRussianBrides.com has no way of ascertaining the authenticity of any documentation, or how current the information or images provided by an FNC are. Further, HotRussianBrides.com does not conduct independent individual or criminal background checks on FNCs. Therefore, IPGI makes no warranty either express or implied that the information contained within an FNC’s profile is truthful and accurate or that an FNC is available or eligible for marriage. IPGI expressly forbids FNCs who have been convicted of a crime or are under the age of 18 from maintaining profiles and participating in the Services on the Website. Therefore, in addition to IPGI’s policy of reserving the right to deactivate any FNC’s profile and access to the Website with or without cause, IPGI will not allow FNCs of whom it has knowledge have been convicted of a crime or are under the age of 18 to participate in Website Services. However, IPGI assumes no liability for any deactivation of an FNC’s profile or account due to information from any source that may incorrectly identify an FNC as ineligible to participate in Website Services whether the incorrect identification is due to electronic or human error. Additionally, IPGI assumes no liability as a result of FNCs who supply false information or supply false or misleading documentation to support the information supplied within their profile. IPGI expressly warns Members that undesirable individuals who supply false information and supply false or misleading documentation may gain access to Website Services. As a result, IPGI, its affiliates, and their employees, officers, directors, representatives, and assigns will not be liable for any direct, indirect, exemplary, special, punitive, incidental or consequential damages arising out of a Member’s participation on HotRussianBrides.com or any IPGI affiliated website, from events whose consequences may involve but are not limited to, financial loss, physical damages, bodily injury, and emotional distress.
    We have included multiple screen shots from the lady’s video validation as discussed above for your reference. Additionally, we have asked our agency liaison to reach out to the lady’s local agency and request a date in which the lady will be available on Live Video Stream so that you may validate the lady directly.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 8:07:14 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Thanks very much for all you good work but really Ashley; I think it is too late (the damage is done).
    Yes I can see that your companies’ video validation is the same girl that I have been corresponding with for the past three (3) months (such a beautiful girl), but the question still begs… WHY… WHY… WHY?
    Why all the games of presenting me with a photo that was not the real photo of the real day she got my flowers?
    It is very deceitful and rather disrespectful to treat me like I am some idiot who cannot see bullshit when I see it.
    All these games… it is such a pity because I thought Annet was finally the one I had been searching for for so long.
    It is too late, I have written to Annet and made my accusations and it is too late now.
    I have 11 years of fulltime corresponding, 5 failed trips to Ukraine, over $100,000 spent (wasted) over 1 million words of correspondence and chatting written. Having read, and seriously contemplating the profiles of over 100,000 women.
    Yes I am a romantic fool, so I have beaten you to that judgment.
    I will also tell you that I am 51 year old Australian single father of 13 years raising my ‘A’ Grade super-intelligent daughter all on my own, whilst holding down a career as a Drafting Office Manager for Engineering companies until earlier in 2013 when the GFC finally caught-up with us. So I am (hopefully) no idiot… although I may be a fool.
    Thank you but I think you should delete my account now. I’m done.
    Kind Regards
    Adam
    P.S. can you please pass on my sincerest apologizes to Annet. If she is real then I have made a huge mistake but she should not have to pay for it. It is my problem not hers. It will sound better coming from you.
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley (Ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 6:26:45 PM
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Thank you for your replies,
    As I am currently out of the office for an extended period of time with limited email access, we ask that you please forward any inquiries to info@hotrussianbrides.com should you require immediate assistance.
    While we previously requested a refund for the gift delivery to the lady as we had not received a response from her local agency at the time. The lady’s local agency provided us with a photo confirmation shortly after the request was processed. While we have already processed the refund we have included this photo confirmation below for your reference. Additionally, we have requested a date in which the lady will be available on live video stream should you wish to validate the lady directly.
    In regards to your account, our system indicates that your account is currently inactive, so the ladies cannot see it but you can log in again in the future if you wish. Would you like us to deactivate it completely instead? In that case you would need to contact us if you wished to use the service again in the future. We can also leave the profile active so that the ladies can see it but you will not be charged the monthly membership fee unless you upgrade again. Please let me know which option you would prefer and we will be glad to assist you.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
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    From: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2013 1:09:32 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Hello Ashley,
    Well that would be very interesting how you are going to get Annet to participate in live video stream to validate that she is real. But I am tired of the games. So just delete my account.
    Thank You
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley (Ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 4:07:19 PM
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Thank you for your reply,
    We have included multiple screenshots from the lady’s Live Video Stream on 11/25/2013.
    Please let me know if you have any further questions and have a wonderful day!
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black [mailto:work2live@hotmail.com.au]
    Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 4:52 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Subject: RE: Delete my account
    Hello Ashley,
    So are you going to delete my account or not? You know I am not going to spend any more money here. You know that none of the photos of Annet you have shown to me, prove anything to me. Sure they prove that the girl I loved was the girl I was corresponding with. But none of the photos you sent me proves to me that she is not working for you… (for money).
    At no time has anyone (you or Annet) provided me with any explanation of ‘HOW and WHY’ those two (2) photos of Annet with the flowers even exists and WHY where presented to me as some REAL presentation of the roses I bought her.
    Okay you refunded me the $67 but what about the $2000 I have spent here wasting my time corresponding with Annet?
    Of course I know you are not going to refund me this $2000. It is not about the money. It is about your attitude and intention.
    I am devastated that this has happened (again!!!) and I am DONE!!!. Time and time again you Ukrainian’s prove to me that you are not the nice people and society you claim to be. You are all desperate and full of scams and criminal behavior.
    I feel sorry for you and your culture!!!
    So just delete my account and you can continue your games and scams uninterrupted.
    You are a disgrace to humanity!!!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Ashley (Ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 5:56:27 PM
    To: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Dear Sir,
    In addition to our previous email in which we sent earlier this morning including screen shots from the lady’s most recent video stream, we wanted to follow up with your last email sent on 11/25/2013.
    While we would be happy to permanently deactivate your account, our system indicates that you have logged into the site as recently as today (11/26/2013) at 1:04am EST. Having said that, would you like us to completely deactivate your account at this time?
    In regards to your report regarding the lady, and as with any report we receive regarding any member of the site (male, female or agency) when we receive a report we investigate all details based on our own policies and procedures. Depending on our findings, we reserve the right to administer any consequences up to and including immediate removal from the site. In this case, after further investigation of the details of your report we requested that the gift purchase be delivered at that time (in which we provided a photo confirmation). Additionally, we refunded the amount for the gift delivery to you at the time and requested the lady appear on Live Video Stream (in which she did so on 11/25/2013). At this time, we are unable to find the lady in violation of our Terms, however should you have further specific evidence in which you believe the lady is in violation of our Terms we ask that you forward this information so that we may further investigate and take the appropriate steps based on our findings.
    We also wanted to take a moment to address your concerns in which you stated, “But none of the photos you sent me proves to me that she is not working for you… (for money).” As previously discussed and as per our Terms of Use, we strictly prohibit members and users on our sites from being paid and we neither participate in, nor promote, or condone any such conduct. We require signed written and recorded video attestations from all foreign/non-American lady participants to emphasize and establish that we do not allow such conduct on our sites. Furthermore, we also prohibit these activities via written signed/executed agreements with all its overseas independent agencies/affiliates so that they too are forbidden from participating in any such conduct. We are very interested in enforcing our rules of participation. If you will cooperate and provide specific details of participants (agencies and/or ladies) that are not operating within the guidelines established in the Terms of Use, we will investigate and when warranted, warn, suspend, or deactivate as the situation requires.
    Having said that, as you are a valued customer, we would like to offer you a one-time only 200 customer appreciation credit package in good faith only should you wish to continue your search on the site. Please let us know should you wish to accept this offer.
    Kind Regards,
    Ashley
    Administrator
    1-866-235-2479 1-866-235-2479
    HotRussianBrides.com
    RussianLoveMatch.com
    Check out our Help Center for more information on our site features, strategies for success, tutorials and eBooks!
    *********************************************************************************************
    From: Adam Black (work2live@hotmail.com.au)
    Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013 1:48:12 PM
    To: Ashley (ashley@russianlovematch.com)
    Hello Ashely,
    I know you do not know me (how can you?). But I will provide you with a very QUICK snapshot of my 11 year experience of corresponding with and visiting Ukraine in the hope that you understand.
    I have 11 years of fulltime corresponding, 5 failed trips to Ukraine, over $100,000 spent (wasted) over 1 million words of correspondence and chatting written. Having read, and seriously contemplating the profiles of over 100,000 women. Yes I am a romantic fool, (so I have beaten you to that judgment).
    I will also inform you that I am 51 year old Australian single father of 13 years raising my ‘A’ Grade super-intelligent daughter all on my own, whilst holding down a career as a Drafting Office Manager for Engineering companies until earlier in 2013 when the GFC finally caught-up with us. I am also considered to be ‘Borderline Asperser’s Syndrome Type’ but this is just a ‘Label’ of naive people who do not really understand things they cannot understand. What I am really is an ‘Evolved Sagittarian Type’ (see here)…
    http://newagevillage.com/wiki/index.php/Sagittarius
    So I am (hopefully) no idiot… (although I may be a fool).
    Now the most important thing your clients need to understand is… The difference between ‘Websites’ and ‘Agencies’ (they are often separate businesses with their own separate owners and personal agendas).
    The ‘Websites’ are just the portals where any ‘Agency’ can post their girls/women to help promote them to find love. Yet it is my 11 year experience that it is the ‘Agencies’ who are the biggest problem. I have suffered and been scammed and ripped-off by them many, many, many times. So if your ‘Website’ is truly innocent and determined to (try) and keep control of the criminal behavior of your affiliated ‘Agencies’ then all I can say is “Good luck with that!” Because you are obviously not succeeding… (you know they hate you?).
    But ALLLLLL… (I am highlight the word… ALL) that I have used in the past 11 years run legitimate profiles. Yet buried deep and hidden amongst all this 1000′s of beautiful profiles are the ‘Money Girls’ (that is what I have come to call them). I know that some websites (eg. Uadreams) operate independently and require exclusivity from their Ukrainian female clients. The women are legally contracted to them and know these websites but they are usually a lot more expensive and do I really have any greater chance with them than with you?
    These ‘Money Girls’ profiles are only on these websites for one (1) purpose… ‘To generate cash flow!’
    I bet I could compile a list or YOUR websites ‘Money Girls’ and I would be highly accurate (75% correct).
    The industry (both girls and their bosses) have had plenty of years of experience to master their deception.
    Yes… this is a ‘Minefield’… but if one can find their way through this crazy minefield (or is it… ‘Mindfield’?). We are taking about love (hopefully TRUE LOVE) and this is one of the most complex, frustrating and realms in the human condition. We all want it, yet so few of us ever really find it. And you are not really helping.
    Yes I have logged on to your site almost every day… after 11 years it has become a habit (and I know it). That is why I need you to delete my account because as long as I have it I will continue to look at this. But I am so tired of the bullshit here on these websites. The games… The illusions. How every woman/girl here wants to CHAT to me. And at $50 per hour it is both expensive and since losing Annet I have become aware that it is worthless process. We had such a strong connection. With my 11 years experience our connection and correspondence was flawless (faultless). Yet is all went to hell the second I got that photo of her with roses and I realized that she had sent me a (cropped) version of the exact same photo 2 month earlier. Since then I do not know what to believe. All your photos, explanations and video captures can be manufacture at any time (at will) if she is one of your employees (one of your ‘Money Girls’). It does not prove anything. If Annet had given me permission 6 weeks ago for her personal contact details then this may have never happened. But she avoided and made accuses all three (3) times I asked her. Now is has become part of my suspicion and understanding that I have been… ‘Played’. All I know is that there is no purpose continuing with such doubt and suspicion in my mind. I will never trust this process again. I have forgiven its digressions and deceit time and time again (in the past)… But I am done!!! I do not believe anything you say and/or do now.
    It is your ‘Websites’… (via your affiliated ‘Agency’ in Kharkov)… ‘Photo Confirmation’ that started all this.
    You can BLAME the ‘Lady’ (aka Annet) as much as you want. If she is your employee then there is no purpose talking any further about this. If she is innocent then it can only be your affiliated ‘Agency’ in Kharkov.
    It is all a BIG MESS now… and it is TOO LATE… So just delete my account okay? It is the ONLY answer now.
    Goodbye!!!
    Sincerely and Truly
    Adam Black
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    (AB NOTE: After this email… the very next day… Annet’s profile was gone. Even thought they told me they had interviewed her and she was not at fault. All her emails to me and all my emails to here were gone. It would appear I touch a nerve… the truth. And now I am going after them. I will show them how stubborn I am).

  3. JOHN says:

    NICE TO HEAR ANOTHER SCHMUCK EXISTS LIKE ME. I AM FROM NEW YORK AND YOUR STORY IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO MINE. I KNEW ANOTHER OLGA FROM ODESSA FOR 16 MONTHS AND I LOVED HER THROUGH OUR LETTERS AND CHATS. I SENT OVER 40 GIFTS FOR EVERY POSSIBLE HOLIDAY. I THINK I WROTE OVER 800 LETTERS AND I WENT TO ODESSA TWICE FOR 8 DAYS EACH TIME. I ENJOYED THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE AND OLGA WAS VERY NICE. THE AGENCY WAS VERY HELPFUL AND I MET THE TRANSLATER AND SHE WAS NICE. MY TRIP TOOK 24 HOURS BECAUSE I MISSED A CONNECTING FLIGHT FROM KIEV AND WAS 3 HOURS LATE SO OLGA COULDNT MEET ME AT 10 INSTEAD OF SCHEDULED 7 FOR DATE. THIS GOT ME MAD AND SAD BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE COULDNT MEET ME FOR THREE DAYS BECAUSE OF WORK AND HER PARENTS WERE AWAY AND NO ONE TO WATCH HER SON.

    THE GUY FROM AGENCY ACTUALLY ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO SEE OTHER GIRLS AND THIS GOT ME SUSPICOUS. THEY GOT OLGA TO MEET THE NEXT DAY THOUGH AND I THOUGHT WE HIT IT OFF. WE MET 4 TIMES ON IST TRIP. I WENT BACK 4 MONTHS LATER AND WE WENT ON ABOUT 6 DATES MOSTLY ALONE. 4 MONTHS LATER I TOOK HER AND HER SON TO ITALY FOR 8 DAYS. WE STAYED IN SEPERATE HOTEL ROOMS BUT I KEPT MY SADNESS TO MYSELF. WE HAD A GREAT TIME AND HER SON HIT IT OFF WITH ME BUT ME AND OLGA DIDNT GET CLOSER ROMANTICALLY. SHE TRUSTED ME WITH HER SON BECAUSE I LET HER GO SHOPPING ON HER OWN SOMETIMES WITH HER OWN MONEY. I TOLD HER I LOVED HER THE LAST DAY BUT HER ANSWER WAS —CANT WE TALK ABOUT THIS WHEN WE GET HOME? NOT GOOD

    ONE WEEK AFTER GETTING BACK SHE TOLD ME SHE DIDNT LOVE ME YET LIKE I LOVE HER. I STILL STAYED PATIENT BUT THE LETTERS STARTED SLOWING DOWN UNTIL IT ENDED. I HAD HER PERSONAL E-MAIL BUT WASNT GETTING ANY RESPONSE.
    BY THE WAY I LET HER SET UP WHOLE ITALY TRIP EXCEPT MY FLIGHT. I SENT HER ABOUT 5,000 CASH IN WESTERN UNION UNDER HER REAL NAME AND YES I THOUGHT THERE COULD BE A SMALL CHANCE I COULD LOSE THE MONEY

    I STAYED ON THE SITE BECAUSE IT BECAME PART OF MY LIFE AND HOPE OLGA WOULD RESUME OUR RELATIONSHIP

    I STARTED TALKING WITH ANOTHER WOMAN FOR 3 MONTHS AND EVEN SLIPPED IN MY LAST NAME TO SHOW HER I TRUSTED HER. WE SENT GREAT LETTERS AND ENJOYED EACH OTHER. ONE DAY I GET A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK===JOHN, YOU DONT KNOW ME BUT I KNOW YOU PLEASE ACCEPT MY FRIEND REQUEST. AS IT TURNS OUT ITS THE TRANSLATER WHO TELLS ME SHE IS THE GIRL ON PROFILE.
    MY HONEST LETTERS AND STORIES STRUCK HER SO HARD SHE COULDNT HURT ME AND WANTED TO CONFESS. I TOLD HER THE STORY OF OLGA AND SHE COULDNT LET ME GET HURT AGAIN.

    THIS WOMAN AND I BECAME FRIENDS, SHE IS MARRIED WITH A 17 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND DOESNT WANT ANYTHING FROM ME BUT TO CLEAR HER CONSCIENCE. THIS WAS A SECOND JOB FOR HER.

    SHE TOLD ME EVERYTHING ABOUT THE SITE. OK MATE, CAN I CALL YOU THIS SINCE YOUR AUSSIE?,LOL

    NONE OF MY 800 LETTERS I SENT TO OLGA FROM ODESSA WERE EVER READ BY HER.
    NONE OF THE HUNDREDS OF LETTERS FROM OLGA WERE WRITTEN BY HER
    EVERY LETTER WAS CONTROLLED BY THE TRANSLATER SOMETIMES EVEN A MAN
    WHEN OLGA MET ME THE FIRST TIME SHE KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT ME
    THE TRANSLATER GETS 50 CENTS FOR EVERY LETTER I SEND
    I ROMANCED AND HAD ARGUMENTS AND TOLD MY PERSONAL LIFE TO A TRANSLATER FOR 16 MONTHS
    WHEN I MET OLGA IN PERSON THE SAME TRANSLATER WAS THERE ON THE DATES FOR 60 DOLLARS A POP
    IN MANY CASES THE PROFILE GIRL HAS A BOYFRIEND OR HUSBAND AND SHE HAS NO INTENTION OF ROMANCE WITH US

    THE GIFTS? THE PROFILE GIRL MIGHT GET SOME OF THE GIFTS BUT MOST ARE JUST SPLIT UP IN MONEY BETWEEN HER AND AGENCY AND TRANSLATER. THE PHOTOS ARE PRE SHOT AND IN OLGAS CASE SHE DIDNT LOOK SO GREAT IN PHOTOS BUT BETTER IN PERSON?

    THE CHATS? WE ARE NEVER CHATTING WITH THE PROFILE GIRL BUT THE TRANSLATER WHO MAKES ALL THE MONEY
    THE VIDEO CHATS THE PROFILE GIRL SITS THERE EITHER AT HOME OR AGENCY AND COMPUTERS ARE USED THAT HOOK UP TRANSLATER WITH HER. YOUR GIRL SITS THERE NODDING AND SMILING WHILE THE TRANSLATER RESPONDS TO YOU.

    ITS A LOT OF WORK FOR THE TRANSLATER ESPECIALLY IF SHE TAKES IDENTITY OF A POPULAR GIRL THAT GETS MANY LETTERS. SHE MIGHT MAKE 200 DOLLARS A MONTH PLUS GIFTS AND REAL DATES IF GUY VISITS THE CITY.

    I WILL WRITE YOU MORE AND ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS IF YOU RESPOND TO ME.
    MY HEART GOT BROKEN AND I LOST SLEEP SO THIS STORY HURTS.

    AFTER LEARNING THE TRUTH I ACTUALLY SENT THE REAL OLGA AN EMAIL AFTER 18 MONTHS OF NO COMMUNICATION. SHE ACTUALLY ADMITTED EVERYTHING WAS TRUE BUT SHE QUIT WORKING THERE AFTER ME AND TOLD TRANSLATER TO ERASE HER PROFILE. SHE REALLY ENJOYED ITALY AND KNOWS I DID MY BEST WITH HER AND HER SON. MY FEELINGS GOT TOO STRONG OF LOVE AND SHE DIDNT FEEL LOVE. SHE SAID HER FEELINGS WERE WARM LIKE A FATHER BUT NOT LIKE A MAN. I WAS 54 AT THE TIME AND SHE WAS 34. SHE SAID SHE NOW LIVES IN RUSSIA BECAUSE UKRAINE IS BAD NOW. PLEASE FORGIVE ME SHE SAID

    OF COURSE I CANT BELIEVE ANYTHING SAID BUATER STILL OR BOTH OF THEM STILL HAVE ACCESS.

    I STILL CANT BE SURE WHO SPEAKS TO ME.

    I ALSO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SOME PROFILE GIRLS WORK THERE FULL TIME. THEY SEND LETTERS OUT EVERY DAY AND HOPE ANY GUYS WRITE BACK
    THERE WAS A GIRL I KNEW IN ODESSA FOR 5 YEARS AND WE SPOKE A LOT EVEN BEFORE OLGA. SHE WAS TOO YOUNG SO I WASNT THINKING ROMANCE. ON MY FIRST VISIT TO ODESSA WHEN OLGA LEFT ME ALONE BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE WAS WORKING I CONTACTED TANYA ON SITE. I SAID HEH TANYA I AM IN ODESSA HOW ABOUT MEETING FOR COFFEE? SHE GAVE A LAME EXCUSE AND THIS GOT ME SUSPICOUS. SHE NEVER MET ME SO I HAVE TO FIGURE THIS IS A FULLTIME TRANSLATER TAKING THE IDENTITY OF TANYA. SHE IS ON VIDEO CAM ABOUT 60 HOURS PER WEEK. SHE SENT ME ONE LETTER EVERY DAY FOR TWO YEARS. I OFTEN WONDERED HOW SOMEONE SO PRETTY IN PROFILE COULDNT FIND ROMANCE AFTER 5 YEARS?—-HER JOB IS NOT TO FIND ROMANCE.

    PLEASE GET BACK TO ME ADAM

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