My first romance trip to Odessa: a nightmare-come-true for each Western man

Dear Krystyna,

I have been using the website AnastasiaDate.com for a while. Last month, I made a trip to Odessa. Tried to arrange some meetings and something that I am not quite understand.

Case 1: Had very pleasant online chat with 3 ladies. They promised to meet and they stood me up. There is one even stood me up twice.

Case 2: One lady I have very promising letters and chat. When we met, she is stone cold and I sense very negative attitude from the beginning. The only smile I saw is when the meeting is over. The interpreter is not very good and she said she is from other town. At the end of meeting the lady ask the interpreter to ask me for taxi money. I give her 200 Uah and she ask for more so I give her another 100 Uah.

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Case 3: A lady took me to an Italian restaurant. Ordered wine, caviar and seafood. The meal costed 4000 Uah (around $400). I wonder it is normal in Ukraine for the first date. Of course I also need to pay around 1000 Uah for the interpreter.

Case 4: A lady which I had a few letters before which is pretty cold actually. When we met, she become more friendly and she speak some English. However, apart from the interpreter, there is also a young man claimed to be her brother. She took me to a seafood restaurant. That meal costed 3000 Uah. Since I have another meeting, this one only last for three hours. But she offered to me a few days later at 10 pm. I wait for her at the place she set and the first one showing up is another interpreter, then the lady and her brother. (interpreter and brother again) Another big meal, of course.

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I am leaving the next day and have to leave for airport by 4 pm. She called at 1 pm and said she want to spend time with me before I left. She asked me to go to some shopping mall and tell me she will be there by 3 pm. At 3:10 pm, she called and said she is sitting in a Japanese Restaurant. When I get there, she and her brother is there. After a while, I said I need to go so I put down 500 Uah. She said let her check the orders and she said they ordered about 600 something Uah and she need taxi money as she took taxi to come to see me so I put down another 500 Uah.

Please give me your opinion as to whether a normal date with Ukrainian Ladies would be like this.

Larry

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Krystyna comments:

Online dating is like offline: sometimes you have luck, sometimes you do not have luck… sometimes you meet a woman for life after just two days, sometimes you have to look for your match a few years. I have heard about negative and positive experiences. And I made bad and good online dating experience, as well. You gained very negative experience during your trip to Odessa.

Krystyna

Krystyna

I have a question: did the AnastasiaDate team organize your trip and dates or it was an individual trip organized by yourself?

To your question:

No, these 4 cases are not normal behaviour of Ukrainian ladies during the first dates (or while dating in generally). My opinion is you got been scammed by “fake” women with “serious intentions”.

I wrote a few times on my Ukrainian dating blog already that asking for money (taxi fees, shopping, etc.) is the first sign of possible scam. A genuine woman from Ukraine won’t ask you for money during your first date when you are on the way to get to know each other better. Ukrainian women do not ask Ukrainian men for money while dating, either.Ukrainian women are proud and earn their money.

After a while, I said I need to go so I put down 500 Uah.  She said let her check the orders and she said they ordered about 600 something Uah and she need taxi money as she took taxi to come to see me so I put down another 500 Uah.

You should not even pay her bills at the restaurant. You should not pay for her taxi. These women are adults who have to pay for themselves. I am sure they work and if they go to the reastaurants they must be ready to pay for their meal.

The restaurant bills of $400 are very expensive. I was in Kiev in March and was going with my friends to the small restaurant in Kiev, the most expensive city in Ukraine. We were 12 persons and I paid only 220 euro for all people. In my opinion, you should say these women that you have not to pay for their expensive meals. If they want to order caviar and champagner they shoudl pay by themselves. Especially if they are cold scammers who cheat Western guys.

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krystyna

Krystyna

Questions to this review?

Feel free to ask Krystyna, your Ukrainian dating expert
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Love,

Krystyna

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Krystyna

Krystyna

Krystyna is a Ukrainian woman who blogs about dating Ukrainian & Russian women and how to deal with intercultural differences in a Ukrainian/Russian-Western relationship.

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4 Responses

  1. Scotty says:

    I think this man get hat he deserved. I’m also looking for Ukrainian girls, so I started by learning Russian alphabet and language. I hired Russian tutor and met at her house with her much older strange husband. Then I met other Russian woman, her friend, who was with strange crazy guy too. I decided to go to Colombian marriage tour, just to get idea.

    it’s crazy, with strange guys which are not communicative, scared like rabbits of women. Several days later, these guys are crazy, partying and making fools of themselves. I was quite embarrassed to see the spectacle in public. I found best results to be make dates myself, on latin sites like cypercupidos, where I wrote girl in Spanish.

    I plan to to the same, on love.ru before my trip to Ukraine or St. Petersburg. Remember guys, you are alone for a reason. Improve yourselves, don’t only look for desperate women. And for sure, they are desperate. After her divorce, my russian tutor became my girlfriend for 1 year. She wanted to marry me, but I chose not, because she was older than me.

    I suggest not more than 15 years age difference. If you believe garbage on website, look at woman 15 years older than you, and ask if you believe in tru love LOL. I hope my comments help some guys to be realistic.

  2. Bruno says:

    Hi there.
    After having a few experiences myself and reading some of those reviews, I decided to tell about some of my own experiences with women met on Anastasiadate.com.
    Two years ago, I had contact with a girl from Moldova, but we didn’t manage to meet at all – I waited for about ½ hour at McDonald’s after receiving her suggestion about a meeting; but she didn’t show up.
    Since I shortly after got the opportunity to meet with another girl I had corresponded with, this time in Ukraine, I decided not to hang around in Moldova but rather continue my trip to Ukraine right away and meet with this other girl.
    We spent a couple of hours together during three days in a row – first day was a relatively expensive dinner, too – her interpreter and female friend were there as well – and the next couple of days we went to a park and had a reasonable breakfast.
    It didn’t work out however, and after a while we stopped corresponding.

    As of this moment I’ve just met a third girl in Ukraine. We walked through the pedestrian lanes initially and had something as simple as a pizza later, and the next day we met again, taking another walk as the day before.

    I got her cell phone number the first day and even her mail address the next, so we have the opportunity to communicate by other means now; not just via Anastasiadate, which – in my opinion – is relatively expensive.

    Anyway, now I have to make the choice about paying for her passport and visa, as well as her loss of income when she’s going to meet me some time soon.
    I trust her though; she was very genuine when we met and the look in her eyes and her smile when we had that pizza, told me a enough to place my bets on this girl.
    I’ve heard and read quite a lot about scamming and I’ve even corresponded with some from Russia – one girl suddenly wanted me to send money so that her grandmother could have an operation. Of course I refused this instantly and shortly after we broke contact.
    One of my friends happened to chat with a girl from Africa for some time – he later sent her some 1.500 USD so she could come to Denmark, and he never heard from her again.

    Anyway, I have a good feeling about the girl I’ve just met. She seems genuine and honest, and I believe it’s impossible to fake the look in her eyes and that smile – the look that told me she had to be the one. c”,)

  3. Thank you for your feedback. At AnastasiaDate we strive to provide the best customer service to our clients 24/7.

    It’s not by chance that AnastasiaDate has become the world’s leading Russian-American Introduction Agency. For over fifteen years AnastasiaDate’s constant commitment to honesty, integrity and hard work on behalf of her members has allowed the industry to raise its standards. The history of AnastasiaDate has been one of providing clients with genuine, valuable service in the face of other less scrupulous Russian dating agencies whose iniquity tarnishes the reputation of all.

    AnastasiaDate is the first and only agency to tackle the issues of internet dating fraud and anti-scam head-on. There are other Russian singles and mail order brides agencies that conduct honest business. However, in the online introductions industry simple honesty isn’t enough to make a real difference to the consumer with regards to dating fraud. Industry professionals must be proactive and fight scam directly, and here’s why:

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  4. massimo says:

    anastasiadate.com is just a scam agency and a scam provider.

    the services provided are and have proved to be a FRAUD.

    THE SERVICE PROVIDED HAVE PROVED TO BE JUST A WASTE OF MONEY , AND LEAD TO NOTHING.

    AS FOR THE LADIES REGISTERED ON THE WEBSITE ,THEY ARE ALL PROFESSINAL SCAMMERS WORKING FOR DIFFERENT AGENCIES AT THE SAME TIME…
    AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO MEET IN REAL LIFE.

    AS IT HAS BEEN PROVED , THESE LADIES SIMPLY PROVIDE THERE PHOTOS , AND THE AGENCY IS THE SCAM PROVIDER, AS FOR THE LETTERS , THE LETTERS ARE NOT WRITTEN BY THE LADIES.AS IT HAS BEEN PROVED.

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